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PostSubject: cleaning   Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:29 pm

hey am wondering what all you lot use to clean the birdys cage? at the moment i am using just hot water and a scrubby sponge thing, i dont think its doing the job as well as it could, so i want something that disinfects and absoluty cleans it so it cant possibly be any cleaner. so any suggestions that is 100% safe for the bird?

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PostSubject: Re: cleaning   Wed Jul 15, 2009 4:33 pm

F10 or vinegar and water.
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PostSubject: Re: cleaning   Wed Jul 15, 2009 4:41 pm

i have no idea what f10 is confused

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PostSubject: Re: cleaning   Wed Jul 15, 2009 4:57 pm

Its some sort of disinfectant thats safe for use on bird cages, apparently you can also spray them with it and its good for feather pluckers. Some say you can even put it in their drinking water but i wouldnt risk that!! Will get Irina to put up a post for you, she knows what its all about!
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PostSubject: Re: cleaning   Wed Jul 15, 2009 5:03 pm

ok thanks, i dont think i will be spraying him with it though or let him drink it, ill stick to water for them.

about the vinegar, do you just use normal malt vinegar like what you put on chips and stuff? or balsamic? or the undiluted stuff that nearly knocks you out when you smell it (obviously diluting it in the water)?

yeah irina will know about it all Very Happy

is this the f10 your talking about http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/F10-Super-Concentrate-Disinfectant---100ml-Parrot-Cage_W0QQitemZ370222650887QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ20090701?IMSfp=TL090701179004r24323 mmmm... maybe i should stay away from ebay for this kinda stuff though, to much fake stuff on there, and i dont mind paying extra to be sure its real & safe.

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PostSubject: Re: cleaning   Wed Jul 15, 2009 5:17 pm

I think its just the normal vinegar that you can use but obviously rinse it when its clean. Definately not balsamic anyway!
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PostSubject: Re: cleaning   Wed Jul 15, 2009 5:21 pm

It probably is the same F10 but i recently found out there are different strengths for different uses and it can be diluted down as well, I got some from Irina last week but not used it to clean the cage yet, she will get you the right stuff at a very reasonable price. Shes just on her way home from Russia at the moment so could be a day or so till she gets back. Will send her a pm to respond to this though.
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PostSubject: Re: cleaning   Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:30 am

When I clean, I use distilled vinegar diluted in water. I add a few drops of Grapefruit seed extract as a natural disinfectant. Do not laugh but I have found the facial loofa sponges are quite good for scrubbing. I also have a natural stiff bristle brush for perches, bars etc. The vinegar/water/gse is non toxic for cleaning.

F10 disinfectant is available in a solution to be diluted or wipes. It is a strong but safe disinfectant but I would let it dry completely before placing my parrot back in the cage. I am pretty sure it is to combat avian flu and a number of other items. There are several items on the market that do the same job. It is not intended for feeding or spraying. 24 parrot carries it and I would check with an avian vet - mine in Cardiff carries it as well. I have been considering Lancer which is new on the market but it has to be purchased in bulk - not practical for me. I think there is another safe product similar to Poop Off but I cannot remember it as of right now. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: cleaning   Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:39 am

F10 is what i use
8.99 for a concentrated bottle

You only put a small amount in your spray bottle
It is really good'

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PostSubject: Re: cleaning   Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:52 am

thanks guys, i have been looking at the f10 , as for them perchs i scrub what i can but can never get all the poop off it, so i go over it with some sandpaper like once a month or so.....

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PostSubject: cleaning perches   Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:53 am

Hot water, white vinegar and a stiff scrub brush does the trick for me.

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PostSubject: Re: cleaning   Thu Jul 16, 2009 7:54 am

i like the vinegar water too, sometimes a splash of lemon juice to help with sticky dried fruit pieces, lol...the wooden perches come clean, but do stain...sanding is the only way i've found to remove the stains (when the poo soaks into the wood)...

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PostSubject: Re: cleaning   Fri Jul 17, 2009 3:54 pm

F10 is very safe to use as a desinfectant, you can even spray it in the air to kill airborne germs if you have many birds or ill birds at home. You can read some more information about it here, on the official F10 website http://www.f10biocare.co.uk/
It is very effective against most gems and bacteria and even mold spores apparently!

1Litre of F10 ready to use solution (diluted 1 to 250) is £7.50. It is convenient to use as you don't have to measure anything out and dilute.
100 ml of F10 concentrated solution is £7.30. This must be diluted before use.


The vinegar I use is apple cider vinegar, cheaper one for cleaning, organic one to add to birds' water or spraying. You can use any other white vinegar I presume, it has to be white, to prevent staining. You can use it undiluted for cleaning if there are no birds around and wipe it off with a clean cloth afterwards, or diluted with 50% of water, then the surfaces can be wiped and let go dry.

As for the perches, it is best to replace wooden ones regularly, that is why the best thing to do is to make them yourself, cheap and cheeful Very Happy Otherwise, I just soak them in a bowl with water with a splash of vinegar if possible, or just pour water all over it, leave it to stand for a bit and then rinse, seems to work quite well Smile
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PostSubject: Re: cleaning   Sun Jul 19, 2009 11:33 am

Thank you Irina. I wanted to know about the vinegar.

I put the rope perches in the laundry washing machine with just a touch of detergent and some bleach. I put it for extra rinses to make sure there's not residue. I think mild laundry detergent should be okay, right?
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PostSubject: Re: cleaning   Sun Jul 19, 2009 11:57 am

If it is well rinsed, should be fine Smile
One of my rope perches looked abit shabby after I washed it in the washing machine Smile maybe because I also turned additional rinsing on or whatever it is called Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: cleaning   Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:54 am

Pete,as well as f10 i use johnsons clean & safe for birds on the cage and for perches. To get the dried on poop off i spray them with johnsons,leave for a few minutes then usually it comes off,if not then pour boiling water over them an dleave to dry.To me f10 is too expensive to be used on everything.
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PostSubject: Re: cleaning   Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:58 am

I do the same, Jules, but omit any cleaning liquids altogether. If an item is very soiled, I leave it to soak in water with a bit of vinegar and then rinse it with boiling water. I sometimes even use a little bit of washing up liquid, which I then wash off thoroughly Smile
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PostSubject: Re: cleaning   Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:51 pm

Yes thats a good idea too irina.Johnsons is very safe though,only the food bowls and toys have to be rinsed well after.
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PostSubject: Cleaning   Wed Jul 22, 2009 1:30 am

That is interesting about Johnson's - I do have it in the house and if you feel it is very safe (yes of course rinsing required on bowls) I will feel more comfortable using it.
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PostSubject: Re: cleaning   Wed Jul 22, 2009 5:24 am

Yes i use Johnsons too
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PostSubject: Re: cleaning   Wed Jul 22, 2009 8:33 am

what is johnsons?...as in baby shampoo?...

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PostSubject: Johnson's   Wed Jul 22, 2009 8:55 am

There is a company called Johnson's (not associated with J & J as in baby products) that makes a number of items and is distributed in the UK. They make a cage cleaning spray, vitamins and tonics and I think (not sure) seed sticks and the such. It would be something along the lines of Poop Off available in the US.

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PostSubject: Re: cleaning   Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:41 am

yes it is here over in the UK.....they do different cleaning products etc for animals
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PostSubject: Re: cleaning   Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:44 am

This company is good
they do lots of things


http://www.everythingforpets.com/category/use.dept.444/


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PostSubject: Re: cleaning   Wed Jul 22, 2009 3:31 pm

thanks for clarifying- don't want to spray baby shampoo around cjs then, LOL Laughing

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